tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post3763718480065082410..comments2024-02-10T09:54:43.702+00:00Comments on The Angry Medic: Cambridge Medics Get Their MTAS KickedThe Angry Medichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00533320347050548304noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-60545586729985055522008-05-05T03:41:00.000+01:002008-05-05T03:41:00.000+01:00to be honest (reading from the comments below) i l...to be honest (reading from the comments below) i looked at the cambridge medical school exam and ur right it is alot harder. I am from a PBL med school and we cant even begin to compare exams. However most of the questions i thought were ok and pretty fair game as i love basic medical sciences (sad, yes i know) but when most of my m8s saw them they didnt even know what the questions asked. <BR/>Ps learning binding sites of tetracyline maybe fair game but of phosphorlayse damn man tht must piss u guys of so clinically irrelevant. <BR/>Note i only saw the trphos 1b examAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-81968361407489068902007-06-01T15:39:00.000+01:002007-06-01T15:39:00.000+01:00What an interesting fight...For another perspectiv...What an interesting fight...<BR/><BR/>For another perspective on things, I'm a graduate entry medical student from Derby, our pre-clinical course for 18 months and to be honest I don't even understand the question about spatial localisation, and I vaguely remember ribosomes exist. Though, to be honest having started the clinical course the small amount of biochem I do know has proved to be mostly pointless. I'd probably make a crap researcher though... <BR/><BR/>So yes, Cambridge exams do look much harder then ours. But then, you have had rather a bit longer to learn things for them. The other point is that even if Cambridge/Oxford choose to have more academically orientated courses why should that be reflected in the MTAS? The MTAS is a (deeply flawed) attempt to find the people who have the best qualities to be a clinician. Not the best biochemist/anatomist/etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15365187314479968068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-82798843507433097172007-04-12T18:55:00.000+01:002007-04-12T18:55:00.000+01:00"egotistical assholery" :)Good luck on the exams. ..."egotistical assholery" :)<BR/><BR/>Good luck on the exams. Can't say that I envy you the pleasure :)hastalvistababyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16458884018448683821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-66431722986947912002007-04-12T12:26:00.000+01:002007-04-12T12:26:00.000+01:00no the glycogen phosphorylase was the first thing...no the glycogen phosphorylase was the first thing that came into my mind. but no, i hated biochem, lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-18523169543717926662007-04-12T11:00:00.000+01:002007-04-12T11:00:00.000+01:00ah yes, i think i made a big boo boo... i meant......ah yes, i think i made a big boo boo... i meant...<BR/><BR/>will i get free consultation when you return? hahaha.... say no to queue then!zewthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825991430180369393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-89922892709179216642007-04-12T03:37:00.000+01:002007-04-12T03:37:00.000+01:00I was going to say something dodgy/funny about mak...I was going to say something dodgy/funny about making love to your textbooks, but i drew a blank. so please think up one and insert funny comment here ---> <BR/><BR/>(oh and why biochem? you're not even doing biochem anymore...unless you felt the sudden urge to read up replication forks) <BR/><BR/>svnaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-62590855590835023792007-04-12T01:36:00.000+01:002007-04-12T01:36:00.000+01:00Matt of Comooxdom: Why, what prescience! Just the ...<B>Matt of Comooxdom:</B> Why, what prescience! Just the other day I was contemplating flunking out right now and getting along by telling everyone "I went to Cambridge, therefore I know my stuff, peasant". Only I was thinking of becoming a politician instead of a back-alley bum, but hey, who can tell the difference nowadays?<BR/><BR/>Really funny site, btw. Have added you to my links!<BR/><BR/><B>Jason:</B> You LIIIIVE! And not only that, you graced my blog with your presence, even if it was for 5 minutes! (Get back to work, you lazy bum.) Where's your new blog? You wouldn't be forgetting your old pal now wouldja?<BR/><BR/><B>Dan:</B> It's an illusion. I don't put make-up on for you, see. How else do you think I get mobbed by hot young nurses every time I go to hospital?<BR/><BR/><B>Zewt:</B>...do <I>I</I> get free consultation when I return, or will I be GIVING free consultations? :) if it's the latter, say goodbye to queues, my friend. Say the word and I'll invent a medical emergency for you and let you jump queue. Which would you prefer, acute appendicitis, heart attack, or alien egg hatching in your stomach? :)<BR/><BR/><B>Little Medic:</B> I can understand just how you feel about this whole malarkey mate. I'm gonna keep my head down and hope Labour doesn't win before we graduate.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and <I>"Now get back to revision, bitch, before I slap you"</I> made me PISS MYSELF LAUGHING.<BR/><BR/><B>HospitalPhoenix:</B> oh. oh GAWD. *represses horrible, horrible mental images* And you said <I>I</I> was getting dirty-mouthed?<BR/><BR/><B>Dr Deb:</B> Awww, you noticed! I slaved over that pic. Even got an authentic Soviet uniform for Patsy. Thanks for the kind words! (Now I'm blushing. I DO NOT BLUSH.)<BR/><BR/><B>Merys:</B> Whoopsies. Yes dear.The Angry Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00533320347050548304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-51859208265022634052007-04-12T01:18:00.000+01:002007-04-12T01:18:00.000+01:00Wowsers! Exactly the fight I was hoping to avoid. ...Wowsers! Exactly the fight I was hoping to avoid. Calm down guys, I didn't want to judge or make any assumptions about who's busier than whom. I see enough egotistical assholery here at Cambridge (with all the different subjects claiming they're busier than the others) to know just how annoying it can be. We've all got our own battles to fight on our own battlefields. <BR/><BR/>(The shorter terms do suck, though.)<BR/><BR/>Like HP said above!The Angry Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00533320347050548304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-72742882526967977882007-04-12T00:02:00.000+01:002007-04-12T00:02:00.000+01:00sorry I meant there is a lot more detail to learn ...<I>sorry I meant there is a lot more detail to learn at a traditional course such as oxbridge (and edinburgh?)- as most other schools have intergrated courses </I><BR/><BR/>No need to apologise to me! I'm probably not qualified to judge (as a graduate of a non-cambridge trad course) but I'm genuinely interested.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is the shorter terms. Or the generally competitive, academic atmosphere. I don't know.<BR/><BR/>What I do know is that nobody has studied medicine at more than one medical school, and therefore nobody is really able to judge the differences from a student's point of view!<BR/><BR/>Good luck to all of you who have studying to do and exams coming up :)Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888089682386053436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-90531046995358282812007-04-11T23:45:00.000+01:002007-04-11T23:45:00.000+01:00oh what i meant was that it's more difficult to ge...oh what i meant was that it's more difficult to get the same amount of extracurricular activities done if you're at somewhere intensive like cambridge - as we only 8 weeks! or indeed at traditional schools who have more things to learnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-75592877053751022462007-04-11T23:44:00.000+01:002007-04-11T23:44:00.000+01:00sorry I meant there is a lot more detail to learn ...sorry I meant there is a lot more detail to learn at a traditional course such as oxbridge (and edinburgh?)- as most other schools have intergrated coursesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-65096811186355043822007-04-11T23:29:00.000+01:002007-04-11T23:29:00.000+01:00actually, i have many extracurricular activites. b...<I>actually, i have many extracurricular activites. but this is HARDER to achieve at cambridge medical school than at others.</I><BR/><BR/>Not wanting to jon in the fight, but could you tell us WHY this is harder at Cambridge than elsewhere?<BR/><BR/>I'm not trying to have a dig, just interested. I did a traditional course in 5 years; learned all the seemingly useless minutiae, and never considered complaining about it. What's different for Cambridge students?<BR/><BR/>Merys! Glad to see you alive and well, m'dear :)Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888089682386053436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-28446697704804914382007-04-11T23:24:00.000+01:002007-04-11T23:24:00.000+01:00alright, Im staying clear of the arguments, but I ...alright, Im staying clear of the arguments, but I do want to say: Check your emails!Meryshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03973870561760066803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-34949490346512159022007-04-11T23:10:00.000+01:002007-04-11T23:10:00.000+01:00fight! fight! fight! yay!fight! fight! fight! yay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-85534340877962180282007-04-11T21:47:00.000+01:002007-04-11T21:47:00.000+01:00actually, i have many extracurricular activites. b...actually, i have many extracurricular activites. but this is HARDER to achieve at cambridge medical school than at others.<BR/><BR/>Moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-21329709881867164162007-04-11T20:42:00.000+01:002007-04-11T20:42:00.000+01:00You're the moron.Medical schools all over the UK u...You're the moron.<BR/><BR/>Medical schools all over the UK use the same textbooks. Cambridge students don't get examined on anything which hasn't been discovered yet, and non-Cambridge medical students don't have their knowledge dumbed down (unless they're at Hull or UEA - joke). They use textbooks too. There's not a separate body of medical knowledge for students at thicko medical schools. They learn the same stuff as you.<BR/><BR/>So as I said earlier, get over yourselves. And get out a bit. I'd want a doctor with come extracurricular activities under their belt, not a lonely twat who sat in and wanked over ribosomes. Normal medical students get their work done AND have extracurricular activities to enjoy. They have a life AND they become good doctors.<BR/><BR/>So tell me what's so great about you now then, moron?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-11381542467694129492007-04-11T19:53:00.000+01:002007-04-11T19:53:00.000+01:00"Medical school turns students into junior doctors..."Medical school turns students into junior doctors. The doctors from one school are not any better than those from another."<BR/><BR/>Sitting harder exams doesnt make one a better doctor. I never said that.<BR/><BR/>"If you can't hack the style of teaching and examination at Cambridge, then get the hell out of there. Go to one of the wanky medical schools instead - you'll learn all the same stuff but in a different way."<BR/><BR/>No you do not. I am coping well thank you very much. Other med schools do not learn as much detail as we do. sorry, that's the truth. I know it's hard to appreciate that.<BR/><BR/>it's not arrogrance you twat. i am just saying because we have a more academic course, the system should take that into account. academic stuff should count more for us, whereas extracurriculars can count more for other medschools<BR/><BR/>do you learn all the details of positive and negative supercoiling, the binding sites for glycogen phosphorylase, the binding site for tetracycline on the ribosomes?<BR/><BR/>No, I did not think so.<BR/><BR/>Moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-1529268217101759852007-04-11T19:25:00.000+01:002007-04-11T19:25:00.000+01:00Don't be such a bunch of arrogant pricks.Medical s...Don't be such a bunch of arrogant pricks.<BR/><BR/>Medical school turns students into junior doctors. The doctors from one school are not any better than those from another.<BR/><BR/>If you can't hack the style of teaching and examination at Cambridge, then get the hell out of there. Go to one of the wanky medical schools instead - you'll learn all the same stuff but in a different way.<BR/><BR/>So please. Talk all you want about different teaching styles, but don't become the twatty cambridge stereotype who thinks he's better and cleverer and has passed harder exams than other medics. Get over yourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-14740684548194412902007-04-11T18:59:00.000+01:002007-04-11T18:59:00.000+01:00Yes, I'm a 2nd yr from cambridge too. The student ...Yes, I'm a 2nd yr from cambridge too. The student BMA conference was a pile of shit, really. I would say we pull out of this stupid organisation. How do we do that?<BR/><BR/>the problem is, other medical schools were obviously feeling insecure - as they objected to cambridge/oxford's motion of increasing the academic weight.<BR/><BR/>personally i manage to do stuff outside academic work, but I would be able to do so much more if I were at, say, Hull and York medical school.<BR/><BR/>so what we need is to take that into account - if you are at other med schools, then obviously extracurriculars can count for more.<BR/><BR/>but if you're at cambridge, clearly academic results should matter!<BR/><BR/>oh, the ranking. that's rubbish, too. our exams are so much harder than other med schools. I know it - i've seen BOTH the course material and the exams. they do not get a whole exam question on the "Compare and contrast the neural basis of spatially-localised receptive fields in the auditory and visual pathways." or "Compare and contrast the functionally significant and clinically relevant features of the<BR/>pleural, pericardial and peritoneal sacs. How are these features related to the<BR/>embryological development of these sacs?"<BR/><BR/>enough said. back to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-49477617102392447052007-04-11T10:45:00.000+01:002007-04-11T10:45:00.000+01:00sounds like someone's been wanking in the library!...sounds like someone's been wanking in the library! heh<BR/><BR/>and agree with you there about the level of examinations in other universities. an example of a question my friend from another uni asked for help on (more or less what i remembered anyway) <BR/><BR/>Q2. Where is McBurney's point located?<BR/>a) 1/3 along a line drawn from the umbillicus to Antierior Superior Iliac Spine<BR/>b) 1/3 along line drawn from Anterior Superior Iliac Spine<BR/>c) Above the vermiform appendix <BR/>d) (i cant remember what it was again)<BR/><BR/>and we here are expected to write a whole 3.5 page essay on McBurneys point. gah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-31271408647356196562007-04-11T02:05:00.000+01:002007-04-11T02:05:00.000+01:00You are getting really good with photoshopping!You are getting really good with photoshopping!Dr. Debhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06340730498047128203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-55036348817900724852007-04-10T20:30:00.000+01:002007-04-10T20:30:00.000+01:00Academic wanking pretty much covers this entire po...Academic wanking pretty much covers this entire post, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>Do remember to use a condom. You don't want to stick the pages together.Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888089682386053436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-6962264361934773312007-04-10T18:18:00.000+01:002007-04-10T18:18:00.000+01:00I think i've moaned before about the prospect of a...I think i've moaned before about the prospect of academic ranking. <BR/><BR/>Firstly I'd like to say that from what I know Cambrdige exams are about 4 million times harder than those at my medical school. <BR/><BR/>The exams at my medical school seem fairly stupid, and now our SSC results are to be included in our academic ranking its even more ridiculous. These SSC results are based entirely on a consultants opinion of you for the 3 or 4 weeks you spend with them, its 100% subjective.<BR/><BR/>Currently I'm in the 2nd quartile but I could easily drop into the 3rd before the end of this year. I probably don't deserve my ranking but hey, I don't care, if it gets me a higher ranked job then woohoo.<BR/><BR/>I don't like it within medical schools never mind considering all the med schools together. The only way a true ranking could work is to have a standardised exam which every medical student takes and which a ranking is determined by. This is virtually impossible.<BR/><BR/>The ranking system is here to say, it would have been nice if they'd told us before we sat all the exams by hey, this is MTAS, pile of wank that it is. How they can look retrospectively at exams and rank us, despite us not knowing this would happen when we sat the exams is beyond me.<BR/><BR/>The whole thing is a farce, every medical school is different and there are even differences within medical schools. <BR/><BR/>Just work as hard as you can. (If i'd have been at cam I'd be firmly in the last quartile) Hopefully I'll stay in the 2nd quartile. But i'm there more through luck than knowledge (that says something about our exams)<BR/><BR/>(this is a ranty stupid comment which makes no sense but its hard to sum up my feeelings on this topic by text)<BR/><BR/>Now get back to revision, bitch, before I slap you.The Little Medichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05743228690074334742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-76652234653703970152007-04-10T16:40:00.000+01:002007-04-10T16:40:00.000+01:00no matter what... to say "i graduated from cambrid...no matter what... to say "i graduated from cambridge" is good enough to show 'superiority'... i guess having tougher exams is something you just have to go through.<BR/><BR/>eh, do u get free consultation when u return? haha!zewthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825991430180369393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33830875.post-59570750839925368582007-04-10T15:29:00.000+01:002007-04-10T15:29:00.000+01:00hmm. you look better here than in real life.hmm. you look better here than in real life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com